vikhoa
29-01-2004, 15:54
Mời bạn xem đoạn chat dưới đây, do vikhoa chat với 1 Sales Excutive của 1 công ty hosting Singapore. Vikhoa đã có lần liên hệ để hỏi mua hosting nhưng thấy công ty mới ra nên không mua... bữa nay có dịp gặp lại và biết được 1 việc về VNChoice.
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newzpixels: hi
newzpixels: hmm sorry are you vietnamese?
VK: oh yes
newzpixels: hi hi we spoke before, remember?
VK: yes
VK: I remember you
newzpixels: can u please do me a favor
VK: you're Chinese girl
VK: OK
newzpixels: yes i am
newzpixels: http://vnchoice.net/
newzpixels: it's in vietnames
VK: name's Vietnamese name
VK: I know that website
newzpixels: yup yup
VK: a hosting provider
VK: a ...kid hosting biz
newzpixels: do u know the owner?
VK: maybe
newzpixels: he signed up with me
VK: they're member of my forum
newzpixels: and now i have a chargeback on his acc
newzpixels: i tried to contact him but no respond
VK: because of fraud CC ?
newzpixels: then amex did a charge back
newzpixels: yes
VK: how much ?
newzpixels: 50usd
newzpixels: but he has 13 active accs
newzpixels: so i don think it's fraud
VK: OK, do you have the invoice ?
newzpixels: maybe a misunderstanding
VK: information
VK: some kind of that
VK: Amex ? I think it's fraud
newzpixels: yes IP log and stuff
VK: because in Vietnamese, there's no Amex card
newzpixels: **** it
VK: only VISA and MasterCard
VK: could you show me ?
newzpixels: it's a usa address
VK: I can post to my forum, first for prevent people doing business with him
VK: IP didn't help
newzpixels: sign up IP logged in gateway is 203.162.74.11
newzpixels: then wat else?
VK: in my country, we use Dynamic IP
VK: that's IP is for about .... thounsand of people using dialup
newzpixels: it goes to a ISP on .vn
newzpixels: .... sigh
VK: ISP : VNN
VK: or he did it at an Internet service
VK: and ...there's no logfile
newzpixels: dinhhaohiep@yahoo.com is his sign up email
VK: nothing
VK: here's the contact information in Vietnam : http://vnchoice.net/lien_lac.htm
newzpixels: the fact that he has 13 working domains on it
VK: you can stop it
newzpixels: ... really doesnt make sense knowing that it will be suspended for fraud
VK: then his clients will claim and he will contact you if his CC is real
VK: but if he's gone, so it's Fraud
VK: but I can sure 90% that it's fraud CC
newzpixels: arggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
newzpixels: and i lose usd25 for nothing!!!! coz amex charge that for chargebeck
VK: I remember some people (another VN hosting provider) told me that VNChoice use fraud CC
VK: I'm sorry to hear that...uhm...you may contact our Police Department for it
VK: but ...
VK: Do you know his name ?
VK: the name on the Amex ?
VK: and the name register with you ?
newzpixels: John ashmore
VK:
newzpixels: if u say it's a kid
VK: it's not the VN name
newzpixels: .. then.. it's 99% fraud
VK: his age is about 17-19
VK: http://www.vnchoice.net still be hosted on your server ?
newzpixels: yes
VK: ****... I'll contact him for you
newzpixels:
VK: give me a sec, I call him now
newzpixels: thanks so much
newzpixels: huh u sure it's not against law?!
newzpixels: so should i suspend his accs now or not?! sigh
VK: uhm, could you show me 13 domain names which hosted on your server ?
VK: I'll contact those clients and tell them to get money back
VK: then they can call the police...
newzpixels: aacentre.com
newzpixels: hientran.net
newzpixels: vnndomain.com
VK: I'll tell them contact you directly if they still want to be hosted on yours
newzpixels: ok thanks
newzpixels: huybailamos.info
newzpixels: ncthanh.com
VK: omg
newzpixels: tinhyeutrennet.com
newzpixels: wat wat?
VK: most are ...his own domains
newzpixels: sighhhhhhhhhhhh
newzpixels: wats wrong with this kid?!
newzpixels: i'll terminate the acc immediately. pissed off
VK: there're 10 domains, rite ?
newzpixels: 13
VK: 10 domains found on 64.62.196.109
newzpixels: aacentre (aacentre.com) [vnchoice_500]
hientran (hientran.net) [vnchoice_50]
hoangtu (vnndomain.com) [vnchoice_50]
huy (huybailamos.info) [vnchoice_500]
ncthanh (ncthanh.com) [vnchoice_500]
ngoc (tinhyeutrennet.com) [vnchoice_50]
nguyen (damifa.com) [vnchoice_50]
phoipha (phoipha.tv) [vnchoice_50]
thuy (phoke.net) [vnchoice_50]
tmt (tmtvietnam.net) [vnchoice_500]
trai (traiquangngai.info) [vnchoice_100]
very (veryexpress.net) [vnchoice_500]
xuanhau (xuanhau.hientran.net) [vnchoice_50]
VK: 1 sec. pls
newzpixels: u calling him now?
VK: no, my boss call me
VK: I'm in the office
VK: he's in class now
VK: not at home
newzpixels: in class....
newzpixels: sigh
VK: how much did he purchase ? I mean the reseller package
newzpixels: 50 bucks
newzpixels: i think amex sucks
newzpixels: both the fraud cases i got are from amex
VK: yes
VK: they like amex
VK: because the amex has more credits than Visa or MasterCard
newzpixels: really
newzpixels: but it;s only usd50
VK: I heard that
newzpixels: y is he doing that
newzpixels: costed me 30bucks to clean his acts
VK: you know, there's many kids here using Fraud CC everyday
VK: we're trying to prevent that
VK: because we're prevented to PAY in too many merchants, hosting provider, domain registrar etc.
VK: it's affect to our REAL business
VK: those kids mess things up
newzpixels: should i suspend or terminate his acc now?
VK: yes
VK: just do it and contact his domain registrar and tell them this story
VK: I'm sure that he bought domain names with Fraud CC too
newzpixels: sigh
newzpixels: yea i guess i should leave the accs on and then contact domain registrar
VK: yes
VK: and if there's another Vietnamese contact you to buy hosting, please tell him to proof that the CC is his REAL CC
VK: and if he use a CC with a different name (an English name), please reject
VK: for me, I use my own CC with my real name
newzpixels: he signed up without contacting me
newzpixels: ....
VK: or you can ask me, I'm willing to consult you
newzpixels: i think i should disable that function so all cllients contact me first. but then that is too troublesome and will put off some clients
VK: and please block all who register with yahoo email
VK: yes, but in SE Asia, you should do that
VK: VN, Indonesia, Singapore... all have kids, and CC fraud is everywhere
newzpixels: sighhhhh fed up
newzpixels: actually yahoo mail is true
newzpixels: both cases are from yahoo email
newzpixels: please post it on your forum to warn others
newzpixels: of vnchoice
VK: I have their address and tel do you need it ?
VK: I'm posting
newzpixels: can u email me a copy of them at zwen@newzpixels.com
newzpixels: thank u so much
newzpixels: do u think we can call the police?
newzpixels: or email... is your police force high tech?
VK: no
VK: not yet
newzpixels: ic
VK: if there's law about it, we don't have to write it on newspaper
VK: we've wrote some articles on famous newspaper to warning people
VK: but it didn't make sense
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Vikhoa đã gọi cho cả 3 số ĐT liên lạc trên trang của VNChoice:
» Liên lạc qua điện thoại
--- (08) 8055937 gặp Hinh Huy
--- 0903.141.898 gặp Trí Hiên (24/24 kể cả nửa đêm)
--- (08) 8600059 gặp Bảo Lộc
2 số nhà thì không gặp được vì "chủ" đang đi học, số Mobile thì trả lời rằng đây không phải là Trí Hiên :confused:
Đến đây thì không biết có thể kết luận được về Hosting Biz của Đoàn Nguyễn Minh Huy và VNChoice được chưa nhỉ ?
Hy vọng sẽ không có 1 hosting provider nào khác của VN gặp phải trường hợp này. Đừng để uy tín của người VN ngày càng giảm sút trong mắt các đồng nghiệp nước ngoài.
========================
newzpixels: hi
newzpixels: hmm sorry are you vietnamese?
VK: oh yes
newzpixels: hi hi we spoke before, remember?
VK: yes
VK: I remember you
newzpixels: can u please do me a favor
VK: you're Chinese girl
VK: OK
newzpixels: yes i am
newzpixels: http://vnchoice.net/
newzpixels: it's in vietnames
VK: name's Vietnamese name
VK: I know that website
newzpixels: yup yup
VK: a hosting provider
VK: a ...kid hosting biz
newzpixels: do u know the owner?
VK: maybe
newzpixels: he signed up with me
VK: they're member of my forum
newzpixels: and now i have a chargeback on his acc
newzpixels: i tried to contact him but no respond
VK: because of fraud CC ?
newzpixels: then amex did a charge back
newzpixels: yes
VK: how much ?
newzpixels: 50usd
newzpixels: but he has 13 active accs
newzpixels: so i don think it's fraud
VK: OK, do you have the invoice ?
newzpixels: maybe a misunderstanding
VK: information
VK: some kind of that
VK: Amex ? I think it's fraud
newzpixels: yes IP log and stuff
VK: because in Vietnamese, there's no Amex card
newzpixels: **** it
VK: only VISA and MasterCard
VK: could you show me ?
newzpixels: it's a usa address
VK: I can post to my forum, first for prevent people doing business with him
VK: IP didn't help
newzpixels: sign up IP logged in gateway is 203.162.74.11
newzpixels: then wat else?
VK: in my country, we use Dynamic IP
VK: that's IP is for about .... thounsand of people using dialup
newzpixels: it goes to a ISP on .vn
newzpixels: .... sigh
VK: ISP : VNN
VK: or he did it at an Internet service
VK: and ...there's no logfile
newzpixels: dinhhaohiep@yahoo.com is his sign up email
VK: nothing
VK: here's the contact information in Vietnam : http://vnchoice.net/lien_lac.htm
newzpixels: the fact that he has 13 working domains on it
VK: you can stop it
newzpixels: ... really doesnt make sense knowing that it will be suspended for fraud
VK: then his clients will claim and he will contact you if his CC is real
VK: but if he's gone, so it's Fraud
VK: but I can sure 90% that it's fraud CC
newzpixels: arggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
newzpixels: and i lose usd25 for nothing!!!! coz amex charge that for chargebeck
VK: I remember some people (another VN hosting provider) told me that VNChoice use fraud CC
VK: I'm sorry to hear that...uhm...you may contact our Police Department for it
VK: but ...
VK: Do you know his name ?
VK: the name on the Amex ?
VK: and the name register with you ?
newzpixels: John ashmore
VK:
newzpixels: if u say it's a kid
VK: it's not the VN name
newzpixels: .. then.. it's 99% fraud
VK: his age is about 17-19
VK: http://www.vnchoice.net still be hosted on your server ?
newzpixels: yes
VK: ****... I'll contact him for you
newzpixels:
VK: give me a sec, I call him now
newzpixels: thanks so much
newzpixels: huh u sure it's not against law?!
newzpixels: so should i suspend his accs now or not?! sigh
VK: uhm, could you show me 13 domain names which hosted on your server ?
VK: I'll contact those clients and tell them to get money back
VK: then they can call the police...
newzpixels: aacentre.com
newzpixels: hientran.net
newzpixels: vnndomain.com
VK: I'll tell them contact you directly if they still want to be hosted on yours
newzpixels: ok thanks
newzpixels: huybailamos.info
newzpixels: ncthanh.com
VK: omg
newzpixels: tinhyeutrennet.com
newzpixels: wat wat?
VK: most are ...his own domains
newzpixels: sighhhhhhhhhhhh
newzpixels: wats wrong with this kid?!
newzpixels: i'll terminate the acc immediately. pissed off
VK: there're 10 domains, rite ?
newzpixels: 13
VK: 10 domains found on 64.62.196.109
newzpixels: aacentre (aacentre.com) [vnchoice_500]
hientran (hientran.net) [vnchoice_50]
hoangtu (vnndomain.com) [vnchoice_50]
huy (huybailamos.info) [vnchoice_500]
ncthanh (ncthanh.com) [vnchoice_500]
ngoc (tinhyeutrennet.com) [vnchoice_50]
nguyen (damifa.com) [vnchoice_50]
phoipha (phoipha.tv) [vnchoice_50]
thuy (phoke.net) [vnchoice_50]
tmt (tmtvietnam.net) [vnchoice_500]
trai (traiquangngai.info) [vnchoice_100]
very (veryexpress.net) [vnchoice_500]
xuanhau (xuanhau.hientran.net) [vnchoice_50]
VK: 1 sec. pls
newzpixels: u calling him now?
VK: no, my boss call me
VK: I'm in the office
VK: he's in class now
VK: not at home
newzpixels: in class....
newzpixels: sigh
VK: how much did he purchase ? I mean the reseller package
newzpixels: 50 bucks
newzpixels: i think amex sucks
newzpixels: both the fraud cases i got are from amex
VK: yes
VK: they like amex
VK: because the amex has more credits than Visa or MasterCard
newzpixels: really
newzpixels: but it;s only usd50
VK: I heard that
newzpixels: y is he doing that
newzpixels: costed me 30bucks to clean his acts
VK: you know, there's many kids here using Fraud CC everyday
VK: we're trying to prevent that
VK: because we're prevented to PAY in too many merchants, hosting provider, domain registrar etc.
VK: it's affect to our REAL business
VK: those kids mess things up
newzpixels: should i suspend or terminate his acc now?
VK: yes
VK: just do it and contact his domain registrar and tell them this story
VK: I'm sure that he bought domain names with Fraud CC too
newzpixels: sigh
newzpixels: yea i guess i should leave the accs on and then contact domain registrar
VK: yes
VK: and if there's another Vietnamese contact you to buy hosting, please tell him to proof that the CC is his REAL CC
VK: and if he use a CC with a different name (an English name), please reject
VK: for me, I use my own CC with my real name
newzpixels: he signed up without contacting me
newzpixels: ....
VK: or you can ask me, I'm willing to consult you
newzpixels: i think i should disable that function so all cllients contact me first. but then that is too troublesome and will put off some clients
VK: and please block all who register with yahoo email
VK: yes, but in SE Asia, you should do that
VK: VN, Indonesia, Singapore... all have kids, and CC fraud is everywhere
newzpixels: sighhhhh fed up
newzpixels: actually yahoo mail is true
newzpixels: both cases are from yahoo email
newzpixels: please post it on your forum to warn others
newzpixels: of vnchoice
VK: I have their address and tel do you need it ?
VK: I'm posting
newzpixels: can u email me a copy of them at zwen@newzpixels.com
newzpixels: thank u so much
newzpixels: do u think we can call the police?
newzpixels: or email... is your police force high tech?
VK: no
VK: not yet
newzpixels: ic
VK: if there's law about it, we don't have to write it on newspaper
VK: we've wrote some articles on famous newspaper to warning people
VK: but it didn't make sense
=====================
Vikhoa đã gọi cho cả 3 số ĐT liên lạc trên trang của VNChoice:
» Liên lạc qua điện thoại
--- (08) 8055937 gặp Hinh Huy
--- 0903.141.898 gặp Trí Hiên (24/24 kể cả nửa đêm)
--- (08) 8600059 gặp Bảo Lộc
2 số nhà thì không gặp được vì "chủ" đang đi học, số Mobile thì trả lời rằng đây không phải là Trí Hiên :confused:
Đến đây thì không biết có thể kết luận được về Hosting Biz của Đoàn Nguyễn Minh Huy và VNChoice được chưa nhỉ ?
Hy vọng sẽ không có 1 hosting provider nào khác của VN gặp phải trường hợp này. Đừng để uy tín của người VN ngày càng giảm sút trong mắt các đồng nghiệp nước ngoài.