Thế nào là bị ban [Archive] - Diễn Đàn Tin Học

bountyhunter

17-09-2006, 18:07

Chào mọi người. Em thấy là ai cũng nói google chơi đểu, cứ chờ đến 100 rùi ban account của mình. Nhưng em vẫn làm ăn tốt đẹp chứ có sao đâu. Chỉ có 1 điều là đợi PIN của nó gửi về VN lâu quá, hơn 4 tuần roài mà chưa thấy thư đến. Chắc mai phone cho Google đòi tiền quá.

Cho em hỏi luôn là khi account bị ban thì Google sẽ gửi mail thông báo phải không? Rồii mình không login được vào tài khoản hỉ?

1adult

17-09-2006, 18:11

disconnect

17-09-2006, 22:45

Vào 1 ngày đẹp trời bạn sẽ nhận được 1 thư của anh GA nói chung chung là có nhiều invalid click, như vậy tài khoản của bạn sẽ bị ban
Còn chuyện ko nhận được PIN, bạn cứ request khoảng 2-3 lần là nhận được

hiepsi@

17-09-2006, 22:50

Bị ban rồi có cách nào gửi thư để nó mở lại tài khoản không ? Bác nào có kinh nghiệm reactive lại tài khoản chỉ em phát

disconnect

17-09-2006, 22:51

I see threads here all the time from people who are either concerned with getting the "fraudulent clicks" letter, or they've gotten them and now want to know how to get back in.

I am one of a handful of people (that I'm aware of) who have had my account knocked out for invalid clicks and been reinstated a couple of months later.

So, here's a little tip guide primer on what to expect and what to do.

A few things first:

A) You will not receive any check that is currently unprocessed. Consider that payment forfeited (and don't threaten google with a lawsuit to recover it - it will just make things much, much worse).

B) Do confess to them any and all circumstances where you might have screwed up. If you didn't screw up and are genuinely baffled you will need your server logs to locate suspicious activity. I highly recommend getting click tracking software to monitor your ads for exactly this scenario. If you don't have server logs or tracking software, YOU are at fault by default.

C) The account disabling was both automated and then verified manually. Google examines the location of where clicks were coming from. If they see that too many clicks are from the same geographic area as where they send your check (or the ip you log in from) that sets off a red flag. Competitors clicking on your ads is something Google is well aware of and can track as well (they know their geographic area too)

To get your account reinstated:

A) Write google an apology and discuss steps you've taken so the situation won't arise in the future. Don't avoid blame, even if you knew nothing about what your friends were doing when they decided to "help" you by clicking on your ads. The fact is, by revealing information about how you make money to someone else, you are setting yourself up for this situation. I'm not being judgemental, just telling you how Google sees it. In your letter to them, recognize and admit this.

B) Offer to make good on any fraudulent clicks. They won't take you up on it, but they will know that you are genuinely sorry and want to keep their business.

C) Contact someone at google directly. Don't just send off a random email to adsense@google.com. Go to a webmasterworld conference. Meet someone in their company. Use that In when the conference is over. Worst case scenario, BUY an In into the company. Does someone you know have an In there? Offer to pay them to to speak to their In on your behalf. A big adwords spender with a personal ad rep is a good place to begin.

D) Seek out text ad competition immediately. Even if the ads aren't as high-paying as Googles (and they won't be), it will break the sting of losing all of your income until Google does come back around to review your case.

E) Be persistent, but polite. Send a letter (a new one) once a week. Keep reiterating your loyalty to their program and how you are prepared to write letters forever until they will understand you are committed to following their rules if they will reaccept you.

Now for the bad news....

None of this will probably help. To be reviewed for readmission, your site must be large enough that the revenue is worth a potentially risky business move.

If they don't answer your letters anymore and all hope is lost, you are now left with basically one recourse assuming you really want to be in their program: Change your domain name, bank account, IP address, ISP and site design. Wait two months, then take on a partner you trust. Reapply for the program under this new partner's name and address, (now especially possible given Google's automatic deposit program). Learn from your mistakes and never do anything that can potentially result in your ads being clicked on fraudulently again. So, really, get a partner you can trust will not click as well.

To anyone else who hasn't been kicked out yet and never wants to be:

A) Shut up about how you make money when talking to friends and family. Let them privately think you run a bestiality **** site or something. It's still better than them clicking on your ads :)

B) Disable ads for your own ip and local geographic region, if you have access to that data and it won't hurt your business. Ditto with your competition's ip address. If you don't know it, write him an email pretending to be a customer and look at his return headers.

C) Get click-monitoring software and check it daily. Be vigilant in notifying Google about what YOU think is fraud, even if they don't. Your notifications to them will come in especially handy should your account ever be flagged by them. You'll be remembered as honest.

D) Think of Google for the long term, not the short term. So you're having a bad month and think clicking on an ad you might be interested in anyway doesn't hurt anyone? You're wrong. This month might be bad. Next month will be good. Google revenue is about long term averages. Is a few cents click worth the loss of thousands of dollars in the long term? Definitely not.

Take it from me, I've been there, been put out on the street, and eventually been reaccepted (after a lot of hard work). It can and does happen to any of us. Just make sure the odds of it happening to you are as slim as possible.

Chịu khó đọc tiếng ANh nhé, ngại dịch lắm :D

klasdfe

17-09-2006, 22:53

Bị ban rồi có cách nào gửi thư để nó mở lại tài khoản không ? Bác nào có kinh nghiệm reactive lại tài khoản chỉ em pháttui chưa thấy ai làm được lol

Pagan

18-09-2006, 16:40

The account disabling was both automated and then verified manually. Google examines the location of where clicks were coming from. If they see that too many clicks are from the same geographic area as where they send your check (or the ip you log in from) that sets off a red flag. Competitors clicking on your ads is something Google is well aware of and can track as well (they know their geographic area too)

Rất nhiều bác ở đây bị mắc lỗi này :tongue:

Shut up about how you make money when talking to friends and family. Let them privately think you run a bestiality **** site or something. It's still better than them clicking on your ads

Notme :fear:

kuheo

20-09-2006, 16:01

Hello ***,

It has come to our attention that invalid clicks and/or impressions
have been generated on the Google ads on your site(s). We have
therefore disabled your Google AdSense account. Please understand that
this was a necessary step to protect the interest of the AdWords
advertisers.

A publisher's site may not have invalid clicks or impressions on any
ad(s), including but not limited to clicks and/or impressions generated
by:

- a publisher on his own web pages
- a publisher encouraging others to click on his ads
- automated clicking programs or any other deceptive software
- a publisher altering any portion of the ad code or changing the
layout, behavior, targeting, or delivery of ads for any reason

These or any other such activities that violate Google AdSense Terms
and Conditions and program polices may have led us to disable your
account. The Terms and Conditions and program polices can be viewed at:

https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms?hl=en_US
https://www.google.com/adsense/policies?hl=en_US

Publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not allowed further
participation in AdSense and do not receive any further payment. The
earnings on your account will be properly returned to the affected
advertisers.

If you feel that this decision was made in error, and can maintain in
good faith that the invalid activity was not due to the actions or
negligence of you or those you are responsible for, such as employees
and family members, you may appeal the closing of your account. To do
so, please contact us only through this form:

http://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/request.py?contact=invalid_clicks_appeal&hl=en_US

If Google decides to evaluate your appeal, we will do our best to
inform you quickly and will proceed with appropriate action as
necessary. If we have reached a decision on your appeal, subsequent or
duplicate appeals may not be considered.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team

nguyenphuong6

20-09-2006, 17:37

Làm GA ai chả bị ban đôi lần. Cái thư này có lẽ trở thành nỗi ám ảnh của khá nhiều anh em webmaster.

bountyhunter

23-09-2006, 23:59

Hehe, hôm nay nhận được PIN của Google roài. 1 tháng 1 tuần đúng. Sắp có $ xài roài

moonlight3011

24-09-2006, 10:45

Nghe các bác nói em sợ quá, đành contact với nó trước khi bị ban, thỉnh thoảng ra quán internet click vài phát. Flaud cũng đến $30 rùi. Mỗi ngày kiếm đc có 6-$8 thui, bèo lắm

nguyenphuong6

25-09-2006, 09:22

làm không đúng, bị ban lại đổ tại GA. Không vi phạm luật gì của nó thì chả bị sao cả

fproxy

25-09-2006, 10:10

Chúng ta có thể bàn đến chuyện vi phạm nhưng vẫn ko bị ban ko?

nguyenphuong6

25-09-2006, 10:40

Thì cũng giống như ta thôi, xét lý lịch 3 đời. Google nó làm thế là khôn. Ông nào đã từng có tiền sử lừa nó thì sớm muộn cũng sẽ lại lừa nó.